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State of Mind: America 2003:

Discussion Two: African Americans and Depression


To discuss the particular barriers facing African Americans with depression, host Dr. Fred Goodwin is joined by Dr. Quentin Ted Smith, clinical professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Morehouse School of Medicine; and Mrs. Doris Smith (who is not related to Dr. Smith), co-founder of the National Organization of People of Color Against Suicide and immediate past president of SPAN, the Suicide Prevention Action Network.

Dr. Goodwin begins by asking what things get in the way of African Americans seeking treatment for mental illness. Dr. Smith answers that one of the biggest is stigma. He says that sometimes it seems people would rather have cancer than depression.

Mrs. Smith says that her only son - Mark Alan Smith - died by suicide at the age of 27. She had no idea he was depressed, even though at the time he exhibited all the signs that she now knows indicate depression. She says he was a high-achieving student and musician - not someone people thought of as depressed, and yet, he became ill. In her journey to heal, she has learned a lot about depression and is trying to educate the African-American community so that others do not have to suffer as her son did.

She agrees with Dr. Smith that often people who have experienced depression will stay in the closet; they will not seek help. Through outreach work, she's been trying to teach people that being depressed doesn't mean you're crazy, it means you have a disease.

Dr. Goodwin asks about the role the church plays. She agrees with him that churches can be helpful as a source for hope and recovery, but also can be a barrier to proper treatment. Many people in the African-American community believe it shows weakness if you do not rely on your faith for healing. She thinks this has kept a lot of people from seeking help, since no one wants to be thought of as weak. Her organization has been going into churches, trying to convince ministers they need to give sermons on depression and suicide.

Dr. Smith adds that another barrier to proper treatment is a long history of black patients being misdiagnosed as having schizophrenia when they actually have mood disorders. Some black patients may appear anxious or suspicious of doctors. This may come across as hostility, and the doctor may think the patient is paranoid. In reality, given the historical precedent, many are just generally distrustful of doctors and worried about being used as subjects in experiments. Dr. Smith says educational outreach is necessary to let people know there are effective treatments for depression, and they should seek help.

There are also studies showing that young black kids who get in trouble are more likely than white kids to end up in jail, rather than in mental health care. Dr. Smith says we must educate people so they know this is a problem. Mrs. Smith says she believes many young men have been "diagnosed" as criminals when they are actually sick people. They have a brain disease, they may use alcohol and drugs to cover it up, and then they end up in jail rather than in treatment.





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